Any info southern shaolin temple?

[ktkungfu]

looking to train in China this summer and i wanted to train at the southern shaolin temple.

Any info for the southern shaolin temple?

I believe it's in Quanzhou?

Any info on how I can train there would be greatly appreciated

[kfman5F]

A couple of links for you.

http://www.konghankungfu.com/shaolin.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZeDyL0HOjk

[SergeTk]

Originally Posted by ktkungfu

looking to train in China this summer and i wanted to train at the southern shaolin temple.

Any info for the southern shaolin temple?

I believe it's in Quanzhou?

Any info on how I can train there would be greatly appreciated

http://www.kungfusupply.nl/southern_...e_in_quanz.htm
Hope this link give u a little idea about the temple .... as its also points out main style in the temple is 5 ancestors...

[GeneChing]

Hit up our article search engine. Plug in 'Southern Shaolin' and pull down 'find ALL words' or 'find EXACT phrase' and you'll see.

I'm moving this to our Shaolin forum, as it may get better response there.

[ktkungfu]

Originally Posted by SergeTk

http://www.kungfusupply.nl/southern_...e_in_quanz.htm
Hope this link give u a little idea about the temple .... as its also points out main style in the temple is 5 ancestors...

Thanks, but I did see this before and there's no copntact info?

Thats what Im looking for. There's no web site or contact info on these sites. I've done dozens of searches on the web NADA.

I dont want to fly out to China without talking to someone on how to get there.

[GeneChing]

We got into this more in our print articles, but there weren't any Southern temples officially recognized by Songshan Shaolin, and there were multiple competing sites for the Southern temple. Note that this is in regards to your Quanzhou inquiry, not the Yunnan temples.

That's the thing with southern Shaolin. It's actually rather complicated.

[SergeTk]

If its real Southern temple or not hardly makes a difference at this point. Quanzhou temple has far more incomon with old days shaolin than songshan does, which is more conserned with making $$ and trying to control Shaolin name....

HOLLY CRAP THERE IS A TEMPLE WHICH MORE CONCERNED WITH SPREADING AND RESTORING TRADITIONAL CHINESE MARTIAL ARTS AND NOT MAKING MONEY..... WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO ...

[David Jamieson]

All temples function within the parameters of the social construct in which they exist.

Shaolin is a name. To despise them because of how they function in one day and age and not another when they have functioned in myriad ways regarding the secular world over the centuries is to miss the point of what Shaolin is.

For me personally, Shaolin Temple is a place with a history that is long and storied. But Shaolin is also an idea, in my own mind that focuses on what has come from Shaolin as opposed to the external look of what it is or has been.

Martial Arts, Zen and Healthful practices/medicine are the real treasures. Not some sifu, or some monk, or some abbot or some building. These are all small cogs in a much greater wheel. Like each of us. Sometimes the cogs are worn or broken and impede the turning of the wheel, but the wheel itself is so great that it is merely slowed by the broken and damaged cogs with which it is driven. Over time, if neglected, the wheel will stop, but with care and maintenance, it will turn as long as we breath.

In other words, Shaolin is everywhere now. It is not one place anymore as the seed is growing in people, widely.

[Semillas]

There are five lines or main branches of Shaolin, recognized by some and rejected by many. What is it known about the Monastery of Fujian whose remains found some decades ago and were they reconstructing?

[TenTigers]

it is now Disneyland.

[David Jamieson]

Originally Posted by Semillas

There are five lines or main branches of Shaolin, recognized by some and rejected by many. What is it known about the Monastery of Fujian whose remains found some decades ago and were they reconstructing?

Those who recognize it fail to defer to the main temple proper and therefore perpetuate an untruth.

There is 1 Shaolin Temple. That is the one at Songshan.

The remains of the temple found in Fujian were not set as Shaolin. It was a buddhist temple that got destroyed during the 300 years of Qing reign.

The qing destroyed literally hundreds and hundreds of temples that they felt might have too much wealth power or influence.

You see, Mahayana buddhism was strong in China. It promised that anyone could achieve Nirvana through continued acts of merit. So people gave great amounts of money and stuffs to buddhist temples to get that merit and subsequently, the buddhist monasteries and temples were soon rivaling the government of the day itself.

And so, temples were rubbed out, their wealth taken and the monks spread out or killed. Turbulent times.

When it comes to history, there are better sources than tall stories from the kwoon.

[boh]

hi,

I hope I'm not too late with this reply..

There IS a Southern Shaolin Temple!

It is located in QuanZhou, its about 45 min bus ride from XiaMen the nearest international airport. I've been to QunZhou about 4 time over the last 7 years, to attend the Southern Shaolin International Conference. Its a yearly event, with about 30-50 different schools/groups participatine from all over the world, mainly from Asia, with Europe and America represented, with styles like 5-Ancestors, White Crane, TaiZu (these are predominantly Fujian styles) and Wing Chun, Southern Mantis, ErMei present as well.

Over the years, since 2005, the temple has been undergoing restoration, and completed around 2010, when it was offically opened. Its also has a youngish Abbot (my guess, 30'ish) who is trained in Bhuddism and Martial Arts. (I saw him perform a very credible Luohan form) in 2011 (my last visit), and since then has a live-in retinue to trainee monks.

The dominant style in Quanzhou (and probably in the temple) is 5-Ancestors with TaiZu as a close second. The various White Crane styles would be more towards the east, in towns/cities like FuZhou, YongChun.

The problem is, I don't think the temple has a program to take in foreign students, like the Henan Temple. At least not when I was last there in Nov 2011.

As for whether its recognised by SongSan Northern Shaolin Temple, I think it is, as it has the full support of the provincial Fujian government which footed the bill for the restoration and is promoting it.

As for its authencity, those in our 5-Ancestors lineage (Chee Kim Thong) believe storngly so, as our grand master's master trained there directly. And apparently at that time, it was a shadow of it former self. That's part of our oral history anyway. And I would think the other 5-Ancestor lineage (the Kong Han guys.) would also support its authencity.

I also think that the reason why its hard to get contact and info about training there, is the temple is trying to get its own processes/administration sorted out first. And recruiting foreign trainees is probably not of high priority, now. From what I see, they are certainly a lot less 'commercial' than its brethren in the north ;-)

However, if you are keen to learn 5-Ancestors, there are other options, one of which is to visit us here in Malaysia ;-)