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    What about Fok Bo Chun and Yuen Chai Wan ? Dindnt Sun Kam or Dai Fa Min Kam just know Weng Chun and not the three forms Sui Nim Ta ,Chum Kui , Bill Jee or maybe Sun Kam (Dai Fa Min Kam ) new both Weng Chun and the three form system Wing Chun .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehawk4 View Post
    What about Fok Bo Chun and Yuen Chai Wan ? Dindnt Sun Kam or Dai Fa Min Kam just know Weng Chun and not the three forms Sui Nim Ta ,Chum Kui , Bill Jee or maybe Sun Kam (Dai Fa Min Kam ) new both Weng Chun and the three form system Wing Chun .
    If you take the weng Chun and the yks/snake crane, and compare. It is obvious they are using two different types of engine.

    Take a look at the older generation of weng Chun versus yks . You can clearly sees. Weng Chun is old hung kuen core. And yks is snake crane core. The engine develop in one's body tells the story of the person's art.

    So, there is very not likely sun kam can develop two engines like one side is vampire and the other side is werewolf.

    Also, we know the three set is converted from the one long set. Wong wah Bo and lj is responsible to it. Thus, it has to come from the wong line.

    As for jee sin, even in my lineage some believe that. But the issue is how can a shaolin master jee sin create WCK from an emei propietory technology. And also, which type of engine jee sim cultivate?


    If you freeze time at the 1960。take a look at weng Chun wing Chun at that time. And then take a look at today weng Chun and wing Chun one can see there are moves which adapted by both party in hong kong. But, the engine gap cannot be close because weng Chun still do with old hung kuen and CLF engine. While the wing Chun people still snake and crane type.

    Thus, it is two different art with some distorted history which could be observe via the technology.



    Just some thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    If you take the weng Chun and the yks/snake crane, and compare. It is obvious they are using two different types of engine.

    Take a look at the older generation of weng Chun versus yks . You can clearly sees. Weng Chun is old hung kuen core. And yks is snake crane core. The engine develop in one's body tells the story of the person's art.

    So, there is very not likely sun kam can develop two engines like one side is vampire and the other side is werewolf.

    Also, we know the three set is converted from the one long set. Wong wah Bo and lj is responsible to it. Thus, it has to come from the wong line.

    As for jee sin, even in my lineage some believe that. But the issue is how can a shaolin master jee sin create WCK from an emei propietory technology. And also, which type of engine jee sim cultivate?


    If you freeze time at the 1960。take a look at weng Chun wing Chun at that time. And then take a look at today weng Chun and wing Chun one can see there are moves which adapted by both party in hong kong. But, the engine gap cannot be close because weng Chun still do with old hung kuen and CLF engine. While the wing Chun people still snake and crane type.

    Thus, it is two different art with some distorted history which could be observe via the technology.



    Just some thoughts.
    So wing chun has a snake and crane engine and weng chun has hung kuen and choy li fut engines?
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