playing with 5 layers

[Hendrik]

So Hendrik, I can see your movements but what is your mindset in doing these exercises? How are you developing awareness? Is it internal self awareness or that of your surroundings? How do mediridians and momentum come into play here? Can you provide some more detail or depth?

Thanks.

It is a complex stuffs.

According to ancient tcma,
Every movement has its own physical , breathing, awareness, qi medirians flow, and momentum or the five layers. Thus, each of these movement develop different power type.

These type of things exist and one needs a sifu to coach one, going throught layer and layer until one can handle the basic, then one can toy with it in the same time.

WCK is called the art of details. So, that is what it is layers of details.

[YouKnowWho]

is the bounce used to spit and fa jing people away? What's the purpose of the bounce?
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It's not used to Fajin people away. Try to think this way. When you try to do something, suddenly someone shake your arm. You try to do it again, your arm is shaked again. You never even have a chance to "start" to do what you want to do.

It's only used for "defense". You try to stop your opponent from generating his power in the early stage. It also creates the distance between you and your opponent's body, so you can do whatever that you plan to do. When your opponent tries to bend forward to throw you, you suddently force his spin to bend backward, it may shock your opponent for a short period of time. That will be your advantage.

[Hendrik]

It's not used to Fajin people away. Try to think this way. When you try to do something, suddenly someone shake your arm. You try to do it again, your arm is shaked again. You never even have a chance to "start" to do what you want to do.

It's only used for "defense". You try to stop your opponent from generating his power in the early stage. It also creates the distance between you and your opponent's body, so you can do whatever that you plan to do. When your opponent tries to bend forward to throw you, you suddently force his spin to bend backward, it may shock your opponent for a short period of time. That will be your advantage.

John,

Excellent view. Thanks!

WCK is a close body art it has this type of weapon to make complete the art.

[Yoshiyahu]

Exactly, Doing it constantly while striking is difficult and takes practice against a resisting opponent. But once mastered it will keep your opponent so off balance he will not be able to defend whilst getting attacked! Some Wing Chun lineages do push people away. But then you have to regain contact, bridge and connection. To me it defeats the purpose to push a person out of range to have to re-anticipate their attack or bridge the gap over and over. Once connection is made I believe one should continously attack while creating new bridges...Every time you Fajin the person to disrupt their structure you create a new bridge. In my Lineage we do this by Jut Sau or jerking arm. We also Push the person an then suddenly jerk them back with a punch while striking them again. Continously off balancing them. If an opponent has no balance he can not strike with his root! No Root, no connection, no real power!

It's not used to Fajin people away. Try to think this way. When you try to do something, suddenly someone shake your arm. You try to do it again, your arm is shaked again. You never even have a chance to "start" to do what you want to do.

It's only used for "defense". You try to stop your opponent from generating his power in the early stage. It also creates the distance between you and your opponent's body, so you can do whatever that you plan to do. When your opponent tries to bend forward to throw you, you suddently force his spin to bend backward, it may shock your opponent for a short period of time. That will be your advantage.

[Hendrik]

What, why, where....etc some example.

1.
Take a look at 2.03 2.04, this type of twisting movement or female salutation movement exist in the yik kam art from opening salutation to the section 2 3 4 or ck and bj set of other lineages. This type of twisting movement is an important part of WCK.

When I first study this type of twisting motion, same with every one I was taught the 2.03 2.04 movement and then practice it to hope to arrive at the result as what was described in the kuen kuit.

Decade later, by accident I come across this whole twisting movement as shown in from the art of the Chinese internal art and qigong master Ma Li Dang. This is a part of his healing qigong where the five layers are described very clearly While I was studying Gm Ma's art.

Since this Ma's twisting movement 2.00 to 2.04 cover my wing Chun twisting move 2.03 2.04 and achive the result as in the kuen kuit, There on I adapted this 2.00 to 2.04 movement for my wck training and sharing on this particular type of wck twisting movement . I did this because here on to train this twisting type of wck art it is well define and clearly describe in details of 5 layers. Since there no longer a need to walk the trial and erro path of training, , instead one can clearly be able to practice properly and get result.

This movement of this 2.00 to 2.04 is 6d, using reverse lower abs breathing, balance the whole qi medirians system.



2. Start from 3.14 is three type of bounce for different purposes using different parts of the body to cover vibrate body 震身mechanics 。these are shake bounce 抖彈。drop bounce 墬弾。shock bounce驚彈。Shock bounce is the core of yik kam shock or short Jin which was describe as accelerate 速 , release脫, bounce彈 , 盪recoil back. It is a 6d momentum with 5 layers details.



3。The last leg movement is the famous emei tiger step Kung with the eight methods of leg. This type of Kung is special for developing lower part of the body: leg , spine ,and qi medirians. Balance kidney and liver health . It covers the 5 layers. There is a yik kam wck set named arrow palm which has partial of the eight methods of legs and lower body training. I adapted this emei movement set to have a clearly define full lower body development technology.


There are lots of details in the art of siu Lin tau which is later name as WCK. Lots of things needs to be develop with a clear handling details. I am trying to preserve as much as I can.

[kung fu fighter]

Exactly, Doing it constantly while striking is difficult and takes practice against a resisting opponent. But once mastered it will keep your opponent so off balance he will not be able to defend whilst getting attacked! Some Wing Chun lineages do push people away. But then you have to regain contact, bridge and connection. To me it defeats the purpose to push a person out of range to have to re-anticipate their attack or bridge the gap over and over. Once connection is made I believe one should continously attack while creating new bridges...Every time you Fajin the person to disrupt their structure you create a new bridge. In my Lineage we do this by Jut Sau or jerking arm. We also Push the person an then suddenly jerk them back with a punch while striking them again. Continously off balancing them. If an opponent has no balance he can not strike with his root! No Root, no connection, no real power!

Hi Hendrik,
would u also say this is how you use the bounce in Yik Kam's wing chun as well?

[Hendrik]

Hi Hendrik,
would u also say this is how you use the bounce in Yik Kam's wing chun as well?

I don't know how Yos fajing. So cannot tell.

[Yoshiyahu]

Hi Hendrik,
would u also say this is how you use the bounce in Yik Kam's wing chun as well?

You should asked him how generates Fajin!

[Hendrik]

You should asked him how generates Fajin!

I have no idea. Getting old and weak.

[Yoshiyahu]

I have no idea. Getting old and weak.

lol good answer!

[Hendrik]

lol good answer!

So, what is and how to fajing? Care to share?

[Yoshiyahu]

So, what is and how to fajing? Care to share?

Actually i was asking you how do you fajin....i wanted you to share how you fajin with your snake energy!!!


Fajin simply means explosive force or explosive energy...How i do it is different ways. One Fajin is with in the jut sau. We train external and internal aspects to build this...Another is in the different forces we use to punch. Two of which is explosive and snapping. The explosive one vibrates at the end of the strike. the snapping one is self explantory...there is also a whipping force. I dont utilize or practice it much. My Sihing and Sidai utilizes the whipping motion more. It is not as direct or linear in my estimation so i dont utilizing it as much. But the key is to utilize the five keys to generating power...which are...The entire body via your horse or footwork. Step into the punch to drive your weight behind your strikes to add power, the second key is the breath exhale upon striking your opponent. the third key is be relaxed when striking do not tense up, do not hold your breath, upon contact snap or vibrate at in to send your jing through the surface to the internal. The fourth step is use your waist in connection with your horse for additional power that means as you step turn into the strike. The fifth step is utilize your curl to expand or split the body as you strike. The Full Realization of this technique is called Rotating stepping side Punch. We also have fajin in our wrist so to speak...We train the Fajin internally when we do the forms and practice isolated techniques in the air. We train them externally when we apply them on the wooden dummy in isolated drills and freestyle techniques as well as san shou drills. This motion is short energy generated from the entire body but expelled by the wrist. In other words you punch I bil sau or wu sau to intercept. Upon intercepting you feel a pain or shock because my wrist turning causes your force to be deflected. Its the elbow driving the vehicle but its the wrist shooting out the window of that car. In a drive by shooting you have a driver and a shooter. The Wrist is the shooter and the driver is elbow. The Jing is like a whipping or cutting deflection in a way but its short...its hard for me to explain in words...i really have to show you. When i show you...then you will be like you already do the same thing. I could relate one motion to your videos. One talking about the snake engine and how you had the fist turn up. You illustrated a cutting motion. Its the same exact thing only utilize with each and every technique. The idea is not to block force but to deflect it and then turn it off!

In short we dont just use Fajin for one technique...We use it for many. From striking, to deflecting to pushing to pulling.

[Hendrik]

Thanks.

Intereting.

Do you have a utube demo?

[imperialtaichi]

Thanks.

Intereting.

Do you have a utube demo?

I second that.

[Yoshiyahu]

If Both Post are referring to me...No I do not!

Thanks.

Intereting.

Do you have a utube demo?

I second that.